you look at 1992 when bill clinton was elected president. he won with a margin billion 700,000 among hispanic voters, and that was when it was 2% of the vote. in 2012 barack obama won. when president obama won re-election, 10% of the vote, and he won with over five million. somewhere in there republicans have to go and find over 4.5 million votes outside of the hispanic population just to keep up with democratic gains among that demographic. it's changing a lot of attitudes. understanding that there is -- that there are great challenges here. there are very, very deep opinions on both sides. making the case for what a moderate easternized immigration system looks like and how republican policies, how conservative principles can contribute to that. >> not to rehash too much, but just looking back, do the republican debates where everyone including mitt romney seemed to be running to the right and when rick perry and -- the access modified access in texas, he was vilified among his republican colleagues. was that a mistake? was that the moment